Curse

ShaneOfMach · May 27, 2010, 06:54 PM // 18:54

I'm pretty sure if Anet just issued a 2 week ban on everyone who was suspected of botting and possibly wiping their platinum/ectos, it would've been more than enough to kill the momentum while still giving the players a chance to reflect on their misdemeanors.

It also means it wouldn't hinder the activity of GW and still allow them to keep around 2000 active players who are willing to change their ways. It's not like you can have a bot for everything in the game, and the people who've achieved titles and completions like vanquishing, exploration, and guardian titles must've done it through hard work as well.

I might just be a little irritated that my account has been banned as well, but the worst part of it is I didn't even get a chance to say goodbye to my friends and guild members, whom I've gotten very close to.

Bottom line is: Permament bans for people with no prior offenses might be a little harsh. If you've effectively found a way to stop botting and detect it, then the people that you've banned don't become much of a threat to the game anymore.

ShaneOfMach · May 27, 2010, 07:00 PM // 19:00

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Originally Posted by Amand

Did you just forget about the gold sellers? I am so very sure that especially those people will start reflect and actually care.

Pretty sure not every botter was a gold seller.

And besides, even if you banned a gold seller, they'll just make a new account and start botting again with a different program. This is more or less for people who have played the game normally for years.

Amand · May 27, 2010, 07:06 PM // 19:06

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Originally Posted by ShaneOfMach

I'm pretty sure if Anet just issued a 2 week ban on everyone who was suspected of botting and possibly wiping their platinum/ectos, it would've been more than enough to kill the momentum while still giving the players a chance to reflect on their misdemeanors...

I am so very sure that especially all these gold sellers will start to reflect and actually care.

Or maybe those first-time evildoers like you should have gotten their account back? Clean as a newborn. No titles, no single unlock, no characters. Reflect on this.

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I might just be a little irritated that my account has been banned as well, but the worst part of it is I didn't even get a chance to say goodbye to my friends and guild members, whom I've gotten very close to.

There are guild forums, messengers and Farcebook for this. Is there a connection between botting and a lack of social life? The other guy (in his QQ thread) botted because he didn't know what to do with his time.

Karate Jesus · May 27, 2010, 07:07 PM // 19:07

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Was termination really appropriate?

Yes. The end. If you botted in GW and didn't know the repercussions, then you're an idiot. It's been stated plainly numerous times and whining about just now getting caught is a joke.

Of course, there were some people who got caught in the crossfire accidentally, like those using textmod a good deal, but they can work that out with support.

I'm sad to say that I lost a lot of friends from GW due to this, but it was time.

code · May 27, 2010, 07:07 PM // 19:07

Honestly, I agree. If you just look at the activity spike Guru is getting right now, you know most of the users viewing threads right now are active players who got caught in this incident. They should have just wiped all the items from the account and placed a hefty 2 Months suspension and I'm sure many of the botters would reconsider their choice of gameplay style.

The way ArenaNet have chosen to act will just make them all buy a new account, so what, Complete Collection costs 15€. And you can bet this time around they will not be investing any "manual" time in their account anymore, and instead just let their bots rebuild their wealth.

El Presidente · May 27, 2010, 07:10 PM // 19:10

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Originally Posted by ShaneOfMach

This is more or less for people who have played the game normally for years.

Was yet another thread really necessary?

Yeah, they got what they deserved. They may have "played the game normally for years" but still chose to go down the wrong path...

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Originally Posted by ShaneOfMach

Bottom line is: the people that you've banned don't become much of a threat to the game anymore.

^^ Fixed it for you ~ to sum it all up...

End of story now, please.

Div · May 27, 2010, 07:10 PM // 19:10

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Originally Posted by ShaneOfMach

I might just be a little irritated that my account has been banned as well, but the worst part of it is I didn't even get a chance to say goodbye to my friends and guild members, whom I've gotten very close to.

Then don't bot.

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I'm pretty sure if Anet just issued a 2 week ban on everyone who was suspected of botting and possibly wiping their platinum/ectos, it would've been more than enough to kill the momentum while still giving the players a chance to reflect on their misdemeanors.

I thought the warning about botting being a perma ban was enough to reflect?

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Bottom line is: Permament bans for people with no prior offenses might be a little harsh.

If you intentionally murder someone, I don't think the judge will buy the "yo 40 years in jail is a bit too harsh cuz i got no prior offenses"

code · May 27, 2010, 07:10 PM // 19:10

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Originally Posted by Karate Jesus

Yes. The end. If you botted in GW and didn't know the repercussions, then you're an idiot. It's been stated plainly numerous times and whining about just now getting caught is a joke.

Of course, there were some people who got caught in the crossfire accidentally, like those using textmod a good deal, but they can work that out with support.

I'm sad to say that I lost a lot of friends from GW due to this, but it was time.

Oh come on. No one knew of the repercussions or they would not have botted in the first place.

It doesn't help that there were Anti-Bot threads lingering on the forums for months without any sign of acknowledgement from ArenaNet.

But maybe this is how ArenaNet expects to make business; apply enough psychological pressure on your customers and get them to breach your contract and have to buy a new game box. After all it's a Win-Win situation for them, they get to free up server space OR get paid for it a second time.

Thrilla Killa · May 27, 2010, 07:13 PM // 19:13

No sympathy for cheaters. If you were dumb enough to download a bot and use it to exploit the game, then im glad your perma banned. Why dont we forgive murderers who are sorry too while were at it. And that guy who stole your car, he said he's sorry too. Let's let him off the hook and give him another chance. There's still plenty of us honest players out there who never violate the EULA. If you enjoyed the game so much, you never would of used cheats in the first place.

"It also means it wouldn't hinder the activity of GW and still allow them to keep around 2000 active players who are willing to change their ways"

Have you logged on recently? because there's still plenty of people playing. It seems like theres more than there was before all the bans.

Rhododendron · May 27, 2010, 07:13 PM // 19:13

Honestly, will people banned for breaching the EULA ever stop begging for a second chance? You guys got mowed by Dhuum himself; there is no coming back !

Femmefatal · May 27, 2010, 07:13 PM // 19:13

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Originally Posted by ShaneOfMach

I'm pretty sure if Anet just issued a 2 week ban on everyone who was suspected of botting and possibly wiping their platinum/ectos, it would've been more than enough to kill the momentum while still giving the players a chance to reflect on their misdemeanors.

It also means it wouldn't hinder the activity of GW and still allow them to keep around 2000 active players who are willing to change their ways. It's not like you can have a bot for everything in the game, and the people who've achieved titles and completions like vanquishing, exploration, and guardian titles must've done it through hard work as well.

I might just be a little irritated that my account has been banned as well, but the worst part of it is I didn't even get a chance to say goodbye to my friends and guild members, whom I've gotten very close to.

Bottom line is: Permament bans for people with no prior offenses might be a little harsh. If you've effectively found a way to stop botting and detect it, then the people that you've banned don't become much of a threat to the game anymore.

You got what you deserved and everyone of the rest did as well. No amount of apology or I'm sorry or they did us wrong songs will work for your kind or what you did. Permanent for good ban was most appropriate and I'm glad and I would laugh in your face were I given the chance.

cormac ap dunn · May 27, 2010, 07:13 PM // 19:13

going out on a limb here and guessing those saying the ban was unjust were banned? of course when you break the rules and pay the price it seems unfair, but when you broke the rules to begin with it seemed unfair to those of us that never did! best to remember, there is no true victim-less crime, and though your may feel steep to you, to the rest of us, it hardly seems enough(but seeing you wiped by Dhuum Rates close to enough)

Bob Slydell · May 27, 2010, 07:13 PM // 19:13

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Originally Posted by ShaneOfMach

Bottom line is: Permament bans for people with no prior offenses might be a little harsh. If you've effectively found a way to stop botting and detect it, then the people that you've banned don't become much of a threat to the game anymore.

They've basically said for 5 years straight that if you bot you will be caught and banned. So people who botted have no second chances, they didn't follow the rules, so they lost. End of story.

Kharmin · May 27, 2010, 07:15 PM // 19:15

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Originally Posted by code

They should have just wiped all the items from the account and placed a hefty 2 Months suspension and I'm sure many of the botters would reconsider their choice of gameplay style.

You really believe that? Really?

Wow.

Del · May 27, 2010, 07:17 PM // 19:17

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Originally Posted by code

Oh come on. No one knew of the repercussions or they would not have botted in the first place.

they knew exactly what could happen, it's in the eula, if you didn't read it, no one's fault but yours. and people did it because they thought anet didn't give a shit and would let them. i approve of this whole mass ban.

Bob Slydell · May 27, 2010, 07:19 PM // 19:19

I really hope I don't see some threads on guru later like:

"Petition for Mass Banned to get Second Chance"

code · May 27, 2010, 07:20 PM // 19:20

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Originally Posted by Del

they knew exactly what could happen, it's in the eula, if you didn't read it, no one's fault but yours. and people did it because they thought anet didn't give a shit and would let them. i approve of this whole mass ban.

Don't come with the EULA excuses, the EULA says ArenaNet can ban you for any or no reason whatsoever. So you know that you are going to get banned, even if you abide by the agreement, AMIRITE?

That is, if the EULA were even a binding agreement, because at least in Europe, it is NOT.

cormac ap dunn · May 27, 2010, 07:21 PM // 19:21

please don't give them ideas... they are already easily persuaded...

Kharmin · May 27, 2010, 07:21 PM // 19:21

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Originally Posted by code

Don't come with the EULA excuses, the EULA says ArenaNet can ban you for any or no reason whatsoever. So you know that you are going to get banned, even if you abide by the agreement, AMIRITE?

That is, if the EULA were even a binding agreement, because at least in Europe, it is NOT.

Why would they ban someone who is abiding by the EULA?

code · May 27, 2010, 07:23 PM // 19:23

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Originally Posted by Kharmin

Why would they ban someone who is abiding by the EULA?

By the arguments brought up in this very thread: Because it's written in the EULA, that you too did accept, so they can/will.